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Unlocking Daniel...



(Corrected introduction: Josephus was not the source of applying the elaborate history of the Seleucids, Maccabees, Ptolemys, Antiochus et al, to the book of Daniel chapter 11, as I had stated. It was Porphyry. Who doubtlessly used Josephus's histories. My heartfelt apologies to Josephus and to You, my Dear Gentle Readers.)



To further Unlock the book of Daniel involves a look back in history:



The elaborate history of the Seleucids, Maccabees, Ptolemys, Antiochus et al, has, with variations, been accepted by Christian and Jew alike for the better part of two thousand years.

Why ? Where did this come from ? Who did this ?

Did you know? (I did not know) That the elaborate history of the Seleucids, Ptolemys, etc. as applied to Daniel chap 11 was actually crafted to fit by a man named Porphyry, who hated Christians ? And he crafted this “fulfillment” to prove that the book of Daniel was written many years after the events that it claimed to predict ? He claimed it was too accurate, And that the book of Daniel was therefore a fraud ? Any research on Porphyry will confirm this. By-the-way Jerome, (translator of the Vulgate, and a target of Porphyry's) in his Commentary on Daniel said Porphyry was wrong, and the events did not fit ! But others were not as astute as Jerome, and took the bait.

It is therefore one of the Great Ironies of History that Christians en mass, have, to one extent or another, accepted Porphyry's interpretation as true ! Including most of US !

But the 'Man in Linen' had told Daniel (10:14) that he was going to tell Daniel what was going to happen “in the Last Days”. The Last Days are now! Not way back then, neither Daniel's time nor the time Porphyry would have us believe..


After setting the stage in vss 1-5 of chapter 11, the 'Man in Linen' resumes with the words, “At the End of Years”......

The "Man in Linen" told Daniel that he, the "Man in Linen", was going to tell Daniel what would befall Daniel's people in the 'final days' or ' the time of the end'. (Please note: The "Man in Linen" does not say 'the final days of Daniel's people', but what would happen to Daniel's people “in the final days”, there is a difference.)***



In Daniel chapter 11 starting with verse 1 the "Man in Linen" gives Daniel a 101 course in identifying the Kings of the North and the South.

Starting from the current King that Daniel was living under, Persia, the "Man in Linen" traces the dominant world power through several more Persian rulers, then to an apparent identification of Alexander the great, his subsequent death and fragmenting of his empire, the identity of a southern fragment becoming the next world power, which by simple observation became Egypt, then Rome. Thus Rome was the King of the South in it's day, (Rome replaced/subsumed Egypt in 30 B.C.) and  historically the inheritor of Rome's legacy was Britain, thence from Britain to America, the current King of the South . The Bible only shows the lineage of the King of the South in this chapter, whoever politically and militarily was/is at the antipodes of 'The King of the South' in the 'time of the end' would be the King of the North.  The twentieth century has shown that to be Russia/Soviet Union. Which it will soon be again.

So the Lineage of the King of the South (Southern fragment of Alexander the Great's Empire) would appear to be; Egypt, Rome, Britain, America. 

 

But at verse 6 the "Man in Linen's" narrative fast-forwards to 'the end of years'. (Which the "Man in Linen" said was the point of the prophecy in the first place, ( hello! ) {Dan 10:14} ).

Daniel 11:6(“After [some bibles say "At the end of years"] some years they shall make an alliance, and the daughter of the king of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement. But she shall not retain the strength of her arm, and he and his arm shall not endure, but she shall be given up, and her attendants, he who fathered her, and he who supported her in those times." Daniel 11:6 ESV) looks spot-on to be the Romanovs (Tsars of Russia), at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917**, (also called the 'Russian Revolution', the 'October Revolution', or 'Red October'). Alexandra Fyodorovna (Tsar Nicholas II's  wife) was the granddaughter of Queen Victoria of England, which would make her 'the daughter of the King of the South' !! (interesting link)The phrase translated in some Bibles 'the one who sired (begot, fathered) her' can also be (more properly) translated 'his (their) children', and in fact, Alexandra, Nicholas II, and their children were all killed together. The scripture also refers to 'and her attendants' and it is worth noting that some of her servants and the family doctor (Dr.Botkin) were also killed with her and her family in July of 1918 in the basement of the Ipatiev House in Ekaterinburg. Rasputin would fit 'He who supported her in those times'. Rasputin's assassination, and his strengthening of Alexandra,  (by continually healing her son,) are both well known facts that directly connect him to this event ( Dan 11:6 ).  

(Think about how appropriate this is; this scripture both  identifies the "King of the North" and, the event it marks, the Bolshevik revolution, is the beginning of the modern existence of the "King of the North", hmmmm..... starting to make sense, yes? Do you notice how very closely this fits, without any forcing, or PhD's in history? It is so simple that it can bring no attention to anyone explaining it, yet it gives remarkable honour to God's prophetic abilities. The Bible is written for the reasonable average person with general knowledge, and most of these events listed here for Daniel 11:6-12 are things that anyone who has lived in the 20th century would be familiar with. As someone once said, 'the Bible was not written just for Historians.').....  

(once you see this, it's just so clear and obvious that you can't not see it....yes, yes, I know,  that's a double negative, but, still... you know what I mean.)


Daniel 11:7,  Noteworthy is the fact that after the Revolution of 1917 the Russians lost their dominance of the Middle-East and their "Place" was taken over by Britain "one from the sprout of her roots"
(Alexandra's roots were British). When the Ottoman Empire fell at this time, had the previous  circumstances still existed (i.e. Tsarist Russia), control of the Middle-East historically would have been taken over by Russia. However, Britain stepped into Russia's "Place" (some Bibles say "position") showing great military success and gained dominance of the Middle-East (link). Field Marshal Edmund Allenby's historic and respectful entry into Jerusalem at this time is a dramatic and beautiful fulfillment of this prophecy. Britain ('one from the sprout of her roots'), also specifically did dominate Egypt after that time...actually until the 1956 Suez events. This 'shift' of "position" or "place" was particularly evident in Jerusalem itself,(some interesting news) (appropriately, as the "Man in Linen" had said that the prophecy had primary application to Daniel's "People", Dan 10:14). (If you're interested, the Russian Orthodox Church's Mission in Jerusalem website actually confirms this loss of "place" in Jerusalem in 1917 (WWI). It's interesting to note the reference there to the fact that in 1919, only under the British Mandate could they do anything in Jerusalem, A change of "position" to be sure.  Even when they came back they were considered "The Church in Exile" and were not directly connected to the Moscow Patriarchate until as recently as 2007. Note too, that they came back out of exile in "Egypt", interesting, yes? )
And as for the comment in Daniel 11:8, 'for some years he shall refrain from attacking the King of the North' (RSV, ASV, NLT, ESV, and others), remember how Gen. Patton wanted to attack Russia after WWII but was not allowed to?

Daniel 11:9 ( 'He will come into the kingdom of the King of the South, and go back to his own land.') looks like the Cuban missile crisis, (an event that by all measures was huge, and truly a marked event, and in fact, this verse only makes sense when applied to the Cuban missile crisis. The Cuban missile crisis was one of the defining events of the 20th century, as well as for the relationship between the King of the North and the King of the South). (See NKJV, NLT, ESV, ASV, NIV, Tanakh, Darby, NASB, and others.)

Daniel 11:10 could be the 'Hungarian Revolution' or the 'Prague Spring'. As Daniel chapter 11 appears to be sequential, it's most likely the 'Prague Spring'.

Daniel 11:11 and Daniel 11:12 look very much like the first Persian Gulf war
(Desert Storm 1991); George Bush number one, did gather a multitude into his hand by means of his U.N. coalition forces, he did win the war, he did cause "tens of thousands to fall" (remember the cluster bombing of the Iraqis on the road back from Kuwait?), but didn't use his "strong , position" (KJV, Webster "be strengthened by it"), i.e. He did virtually nothing with his "strong position" over Saddam Hussein. Which really was puzzling, until it's applied to this prophecy.

If that is the case , we should now be approaching Dan 11:13. 

Yes, Daniel 11:13.     (please see Timeline )
(Note that this verse includes the phrase "in the time of the end", hmmmm....)


*It should be noted that the fact that Josephus' interpretation of Daniel's prophecy was made in the first century ( about two thousand years ago ) would by necessity invalidate it, because of the simple fact that the "Man in Linen" when talking to Daniel at the end of this particular prophecy said "
Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the time of the end", (Daniel 12:4,9). Thus any premature interpretation would be automatically self-invalidating.

**It seems that it would be more than just a coincidence that this was the year of entry into WWI. for the U.S. (King of the South) , the year of the Bolshevik Revolution and forming of the Soviet Union, (modern King of the North), the year of the Balfour Declaration, and the year of liberation of Jerusalem by British troops.     

Recall too, that the "Man in Linen" said that he was telling Daniel what would befall Daniel's people, the Jews, in the time of the end (Dan 10:14). Noteworthy is that fact that at this time the largest population of Jews in the world was in Russia (about 6 million), so the Bolshevik Revolution really did affect the Jews.

Cautionary afternote: The two passages in Daniel chapter 11; vss 13-19 and vss 40-45 bear a remarkable similarity. As these events begin to unfold most if not all will feel that we are at Daniel 11:40. It is only by careful observation of the daily News in detail that a person will be able to see that we are at Daniel 11:13. The very natural desire to just have this whole thing over with (can you blame them?) will make most people choose to believe that we are at vs 40, however, over time it will become apparent. 

Please note: the time differential between Dan 11:13 and Dan 11:40 may be about 10 years. After Daniel 11:22 is reached; the "breaking of the Leader of the Covenant" it will be appx 7 from then (see Timeline) until what's commonly considered 'The End', i.e. Christ's coming. Accurate understanding of this could be a great source of  strength and "ca..ca,ca..ca..courage".    

                                                                                      

*** .....On the nature of riddles.....

Riddles, by tacit definition, are confounding and complex when first heard, and almost embarrassingly simple once explained. The almost Universal reaction once a riddle is explained is, "Oh, that's so simple/obvious !!"

And yet this Riddle: Daniel the Eleventh Chapter, when you hear the conventional explanation (Maccabees, Selucids, Ptolemys, et al) Becomes far more difficult

The conventional interpretation of Daniel 11 makes the explainer  look brilliant, but the point of Bible prophecy is to draw attention to God's amazing prophetic abilities (Isaiah 46:10). Hopefully, the explanation offered in this little monograph leaves you with the "That's so simple/obvious!" reaction, and a deep respect for God. 

Doesn't that seem like the way it should be ?

   

Just a Quick Review of the "Simple/Obvious!" solution of Dan 11, starting at vs 6:

vs 6: Bolshevik Revolution.

vs 7: Britain replacing Tsarist Russia in Middle-East.

vs 8: (first part of vs) Exile of Russian Orthodox Church in Jerusalem into Egypt (not easy to support, but their website in Jerusalem substantiates this) 
(second part of vs) King of South's reluctance to attack King of North after WWII. (Patton)

vs 9: Cuban Missile Crisis.

vs 10: Prague Spring.

vss 11&12: First Persian Gulf War.

vs 13: What's coming next......

Virtually everyone alive, with any general knowledge of recent History, knows most of these facts. Not just a few Middle-Eastern History Scholars...... think about that, really really think about that.

Consider this too; if you were asked to summarize the high points of the 20th century and recent history relating to the interaction of "King of the South" and the "King of the North" aren't these the events that would come to mind ? Isn't the relationship betwixt the King of the North and the South almost the major point of Daniel 11 ? Kinda "Simple/Obvious" Once you really think about it, huh ?

If Prophecy were to predict history that is so arcane and ancient that few know of it, what's the point ? How does that help the General Bible reader ?

The Historical events cited here are common knowledge. What is absolutely amazing is that God could predict what would become common historical knowledge Thousands of years in advance.

 
Shouldn't that be the point of Prophecy ?

     

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An Afterword, (if you don't mind ?) or THE PROOF  (is in the pudding) :

Anyone can make strong assertions about prophetic interpretations, and this site is no exception,.. sigh......
But prophecy really is not there to prove the past, it's there so we can have confidence going into the future.
So, if you would be so kind, let me make an offer/suggestion.  If this view of Daniel is true; that we are at Dan 11:13, here is what is proposed:
As this first foray into the middle-east by Russia/Soviet ReUnion (the Soviet Union may or may not be fully reformed at this point, dunno. And the thinking here is that the President of Russia after Putin's current term (2012-18) will lead this foray.), simply watch the news very carefully, and compare the steps/details from Dan 11:13 to Dan 11:19. There are at least 10 or more, (depending on how you choose to count them) specific & sequential steps/events for this first Major Phase listed there. If news events match the scriptures, well, then you will know where we are.....

An effort will be made to post these News Events on this site as they happen.


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(to unlock Daniel chapters 2 and 7 click here)
(to resolve Dan 11:22 with this timeline click here)



All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
-Galileo Galilei (1564 - 1642)

All truth passes through three stages: 

First, it is ridiculed. 

Second, it is violently opposed. 

Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

 - Arthur Schopenhauer  (1788 - 1860)